Home Foren Ledger Wallet Swap brachte weniger als erwartet

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    • #2028336
      root_s2yse8vt
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      Ich habe gerade getauscht (mit der Exchange-App von Ledger Live). Ich habe zwei Swaps, eine BTC->ETH, eine andere ETH->USDC. Jedes Mal verschwand ein Teil des Wertes, wenn man den $USD-Tauschwert des Vermögenswertes vergleicht. Ich verstehe, Asset-Preise bewegen, aber dies ist eine Menge Bewegung.

      Ich tauschte USD im Wert von 425 $ gegen ETH und erhielt 411 $ ETH. Netzwerkgebühren = $0,24

      Ich habe ETH im Wert von $2376 in USDC getauscht und $2309 in USDC erhalten. Netzwerkgebühren = $.57

      $14 und $67 verloren. Das scheint nicht richtig zu sein.

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      Was ist hier los? Liegt das an einem schlechten Wechselkurs, der von den Standardanbietern in Ledger Live bereitgestellt wird? Es scheint sehr schwierig zu sein, Vergleiche anzustellen, wenn die Zielwährung immer eine lange Dezimalzahl ist und nicht gegen eine Benchmark wie den USD notiert wird.

    • #2028337
      cryptowalter4572
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      You’re basically paying for the convenience. These are 3rd party apps and really up to you if you use them. Bottom line is that they are 💩.

    • #2028338
      Fearless-free1205
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      Some Swap or exchange like crypto.com has a crappy spread. Send your token/ crypto in kucoin exchange than you can sell/swap at the price you like. Imo there is more liquidity in that exchange than anywhere else

    • #2028339
      cheesomacitis
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      Ledger: Fix your customer service and get rid of the in app swap.

    • #2028340
      VariousJackfruit
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      Almost every swap provider (not just Ledger) is going to have a fee spread for converting between two assets. Same as if you went to the bank down the street and wanted to trade dollars for yen, etc. This is above and beyond the actual network fees, since they obviously want a profit and also need to account for some risk in maintaining liquidity across multiple cryptocurrencies.

    • #2028341
      Old_Study_6227
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      Yes, LL swap is notoriously expensive. You are better off connecting your Ledger to Metamask (WARNING: there is no need to enter seed on the computer ever), then go to a DEX aggregator like [https://swap.defillama.com/](https://swap.defillama.com/)

      Cross-chain is a bit more tricky and sometimes will require transferring to a CEX, swap on CEX, and transfer back

    • #2028342
      LoaferPunk
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      Probably the fees.

    • #2028343
      Borthalomew
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      Thanks everyone. Another painful learning experience.

      I now feel like an idiot for trusting ledger to help me do what is right by default when I don’t know better. This is the reason I bought it, could have managed my own seeds. 🙁

    • #2028344
      faceof333
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      This is the fees and exchange price.

    • #2028345
      faceof333
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      Fees and exchange price.

    • #2028346
      sjepsa
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      The money of the future

    • #2028347
      ByteRaider
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      They get you coming, and they get you going.

    • #2028348
      Weary_Strawberry2679
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      Only reasonable explanation are the fees. When you go to an exchange and swap 1 EUR for USD, do you expect to get the exact equivalent of 1 EUR in USD? How would the exchange make money then?

      Do you trust the “No Commission” signs? 🙂

      Whether the rates are good or bad, that’s up for comparison. May be that Ledger defaulted with bad-rate providers. May be that Ledger is also cutting a part of every deal. Whether to use them or not, it’s up to you, but you should get transparency on the rates before proceeding. If that’s not the case, Ledger should fix this.

    • #2028349
      RabidMining
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      Easy use 3rd party apps costs you swapping yourself at exchanges takes more work but saves you money.

    • #2028350
      Wayne2018ZA
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      Have a look at [fixedfloat.com](https://fixedfloat.com) – highly rated swap service (check reviews). Still, you pay 0.5% or 1%

      Not sure if this would be better, but worth a look.

    • #2028351
      No_Psychology1609
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      Having anything to do with ETH and ETH-land tokens is expensive. I use the bare amount of ETH I need to buy, for instance, a web3 address, and otherwise use the Ledger Live fiat to crypto service to buy BTC or LTC. Something much more reasonable with respect to fees. From there, I use Trocodor to change my BTC/LTC into something else, usually XMR. Until ETH fees come WAY down with whatever upgrades are alleged to be on the way, I keep far away. The amounts of crypto I move are never close to enough to justify the outrageous gas fees.

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