Verlor 1 von 3 Stahl-Backup-Samen, geteilt mit Shamir Secret

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    • #1291213
      root_s2yse8vt
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      Hallo zusammen,

      Ich habe einen meiner 3 Krypto-Stahl verloren, die Seed-Phrase wurde in diesem Schema geteilt:

      * Wörter 1-16 auf einem
      * Wörter 9-24 auf dem zweiten
      * Wörter 1-8 und 17-24 auf einem dritten

      Was muss ich jetzt tun? Ich bin ein bisschen paranoid. Die Möglichkeiten sind diese:

      1. Nichts tun. Bin ich noch sicher oder ist es möglich, das verbleibende Wort zu erzwingen?
      2. Kaufe einen anderen Ledger, transferiere alle Kryptowährungen und kaufe 3 andere Kryptowährungen
      3. Füge 25 Wörter in den aktuellen Ledger ein

      Ich danke Ihnen im Voraus

    • #1291214
      jonklinger
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      This is not an actual „Shamir“, but a simplified Shamir. However, if this is the case, I would actually move all the funds to a new wallet and generate the new seed, and split the same way.

    • #1291215
      icydee
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      Consider it compromised, but it’s not urgent. If someone finds the lost set, they still have to gain access to one of the others, in the mean time you will have a problem if you lose another set unless you recreate the lost set.

      My approach would be to either create a new key entirely or a 25th key in the current one and transfer all your funds.

      I too have a similar Shamir code in three sets of steel dog tags. I have a small amount of crypto in that account, but most of my crypto on a 25th pass phrase protected wallet. I memorised my pass phrase and included it as a memorandum to my securely stored will.

    • #1291216
      Rannasha
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      Bruteforcing is still extremely infeasible even for someone who has found the fragment. You shouldn’t worry about losing funds to a brute force attack.

      However, you’re now the loss of one more fragment away from no longer having your full seed. What you can do is recreate the lost fragment from the two remaining fragments. Since you’re not actually using Shamir’s Secret Sharing algorithm, you don’t need the aid of a computer to do any math.

      Note that if you suspect that the lost fragment might have been taken by someone you know, then you should probably recreate a completely fresh seed and storage setup. Because while you’re still very much protected against brute force attacks from a stranger, a targeted attack is much more dangerous right now.

    • #1291217
      ModernWest
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      Why are you making it so complicated? 🤔

      Write your full seed phrase on a piece of paper and be done with it already.

    • #1291218
      Sea_Plan_3317
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      Just change seed phrase. Transfer funds.

    • #1291219
      EarningsPal
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      Buy 1 crypto steel to replace the lost one.

      Use the 2 you have to recreate the lost one.

    • #1291220
      FrontHandNerd
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      How are you dealing with communicating about these if you die?

      Wanting your family to be able to access?

    • #1291221
      faceof333
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      Dear, Transfer your assets to complete different wallet, once done, reset ledger and create new seed phrase.

      Warning:

      -Don’t enter your seed into anything except the Ledger device itself.

      -Download / update ledger live software from official website only.

      -Never use search engine to access ledger website.

      -Ignore all messages in your inbox and mark them as spam.

      -Never click links or install software from an e-mail.

      -Never respond to someone request to download remote applications(Team viewer, anydesk and etc.)

      -Always conduct a small amount test while sending or receiving your funds and verify that the correct wallet address was copied/pasted into address bracket.

      -Verify your ledger live is authentic:

      Comment
      byu/faceof333 from discussion
      inledgerwallet

      -Report scam to:

      team-brand-protection@ledger.fr

      https://scam-alert.io/

    • #1291222
      Sea_Plan_3317
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      Put it in one phrase. Make a copy and bury it either underground and write down the location, or in a bank deposit box locked in another box then give access to that to your next of kin or whoever.

      Then keep a paper copy hidden for yourself and just stop over complicating it.

    • #1291223
      ReportHairy6620
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      Just remember them!

    • #1291224
      PutoPozo
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      I’d do option 2 for the peace of mind.

    • #1291225
      loupiote2
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      you still have your 24-word seed, and if the steel backup could have been found by someone, there is no way they could bruteforce the missing 7 or 8 words with today’s computing power. I says 7 or 8 in case the missing backup was the last words, which includes a checksum (hence 80 bits instead of 88 bits, so about 7 .1 words).

      Make sure the same person who stole your plate is not able to access your other plates.

    • #1291226
      You-Slice
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      What should I do 😳🙄 clearly donot do what youve done before 👀 you need a simpler back up system like one instead of three 🤣 😜🤣😁😂 what a 🙄

    • #1291227
      NegusNegust
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      I like brave browser wallet as a safe drop off. Dont put ur crypto on gemini or an exchange

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