Alternative Anwendungen zu ledger live – für den Datenschutz

[root_s2yse8vt]

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Hallo zusammen, speichert ledger live alle Ihre Transaktionen in einer zentralen Datenbank irgendwo (wenn Sie sich von einem anderen Gerät aus einloggen, erscheinen alle vergangenen Transaktionen), oder wird dies zu 100% von der Blockchain übernommen?

Re reason I ask: Ich möchte nicht wissen, dass Ledger meine Transaktionen verfolgt und die Informationen in einer Datenbank irgendwo speichert.

Auch, Gibt es eine brauchbare (eth + BTC) Alternative zu Ledger leben, um Münzen aus der Hardware-Wallet zu bewegen?

Edit: Ich verstehe, dass die Blockchain eine Aufzeichnung aller meiner Transaktionen hat. das ist okay, weil niemand die öffentlichen Adressen dort mit meiner Hardware-Wallet in Verbindung bringen kann. Was ich nicht möchte, ist, dass ein Unternehmen wie Ledger eine Aufzeichnung aller meiner öffentlichen Blockchain-Adressen hat, die es dann zum Beispiel mit meiner IP und Computer-/Browser-ID in Verbindung bringt.

[Jim-Helpert]

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Hey there, we assure you that Ledger has no information whatsoever on what your accounts hold or even what apps on your device are installed!

Also, Ledger Live doesn’t have a database storage, so when you delete it and re install it on your PC, you will have to connect again your device and add back your account!

We hope this better clarifies and remain available should you have any further questions!

[Rannasha]

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> Hi all, does ledger live store all your transactions in a central database somewhere (if you login from another device, all past transactions appear), or is this 100% taken from blockchain?

It will use locally stored data (e.g. the master public key) along with the blockchain to obtain your transaction history.

However, all blockchain queries are run through Ledger servers. Ledger claims to not store any data related to this. It’s up to you to decide how to value that claim.

As an alternative, you could use some third party software to manage your device. For example: Electrum is a popular Bitcoin wallet application that has support for Ledger devices. Electrum still needs a full node to access the blockchain. You can choose to use a public Electrum server (but this still means your tx history is passed to another party) or you can connect it to a full node you run yourself. Bitcoin Core also supports interacting with hardware wallets, so you could cut out Electrum as the middle man. But this solution is a bit less userfriendly.

That’s for Bitcoin, I don’t know what software would do the trick for Ethereum, but I’m sure similar solutions exist.

[Knurlinger]

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you can use Electrum and Metamask for example.

[baddabaddabing]

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For better privacy use ur ledger with Electrum Wallet connected to your own node (Check out Umbrel !) on Tor.

[loupiote2]

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Your transaction history is fetched from the blockchain, and stored on the cache of your local computer or phone.

It is easy to demonstrate that, just do a transaction of your account using another front-end, and you will see that LL will be able to show it.

You need to be aware that although Ledger does not store your account information, your account addresses do travel on the internet when blockchain nodes are queried to get your transactions history or to execute a transaction, and there is no way to know where they could get cached along the way. So if you are overly paranoid, you should run your own nodes and use VPNs.

And of course, any malware on your computer could also have access to all your public addresses.

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