Analyse-Lähmung in Bezug auf Sicherheit
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11. Oktober 2022 um 13:14 Uhr #1264906
root_s2yse8vt
Administrator::Was empfehlen Sie für die Speicherung einer beträchtlichen Menge an Krypto? Ich besitze derzeit 3 Ledger-Geräte.
Mein Gedanke ist, dass das größte Risiko darin besteht, etwas zu verlieren oder zu vergessen – Seed-Phrase, PIN, Passphrase, Ledger-Geräte.
Und das Risiko Nr. 2 ist ein Einbruch – was mich nervös macht, einen Seed auf Stahl zu speichern.
Kann jemand eine Lösung vorschlagen, die vor diesen beiden Risiken schützt, ohne übermäßig kompliziert zu sein?
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11. Oktober 2022 um 13:14 Uhr #1264907
weedium
Gast::Yes I can. Pass phrase or 25th word that can be anything you want, up to 100 characters. Memorize it. It must not be able to be guessed by anyone. Now you really could care less if someone gets a hold of your 24 word seed phrase.
Edit: the 25 word should only ever be entered into your ledger, no where else. Do not speak it aloud. Do not use your ledger near any cameras. In your mind only, plus your soul mate’s mind.
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11. Oktober 2022 um 13:14 Uhr #1264908
Icy-Article-8635
Gast::The number one risk is entering your seed phrase into anything other than the **hardware** wallet
Taking a pic of your seed phrase and then having your mobile get hacked (or having it upload the photo to iCloud or google cloud unbeknownst to you) is a close second.
My advice:
Get a ledger. Go through the steps to ensure it’s authentic. Ensure it creates a brand new seed phrase for you. Do not use the device if the seed phrase is pre-filled out for you. Do not use it if the pin is pre-filled out for you.
Get a billfodl. Record your seed phrase in that. Ensure no one is around you when you do it. Don’t talk when you do it. Half of the devices that will be around you will have a camera and microphone built in to them. Dont have cameras pointing at it (security, laptop, phone). Ensure no one is around. Make sure your back is not to an open window. ie. Do that shit in *secret*
Padlock the billfodl (there’s a hole perfect for one)
Wrap it in 69 zip ties (because you’ll remember 69)
Duct tape the shit out of it.
Put it in a safe.
If it ever goes missing or is tampered with, move your funds immediately.
Consider storing only a small amount in that wallet, and setup a 25th word (that you never write down, but will also never forget) and place the bulk of your coins/tokens there.
Never. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Never enter your seed phrase anywhere except on your *physical* ledger device.
If „Ledger“ software asks you to enter it in your phone/computer/laptop … That ain’t Ledger software. Don’t do it.
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11. Oktober 2022 um 13:14 Uhr #1264909
Icy-Article-8635
Gast::That #1 risk you quote is partially right:
If you lose the seed phrase, your coins are gone if you lose your ledger or forget your pin
Otherwise… Who cares about the ledger? The odds of an attacker guessing your 4-8 digit PIN in **3 tries** is near zero. Once they try 3 times and it resets, it’s no longer tied to your crypto.
That #2 risk… It’s much lower than that. They have to know what they’re looking for… And if your risk profile (or coin stash size) is such that it’s a legitimate concern, get a couple of steels and make sure one is somewhere no one else but you will find it (so you can recover if someone steals your other ones), and implement a 25th word that you dont write down.
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11. Oktober 2022 um 13:14 Uhr #1264910
TaterTots_Ledger
Gast::Others have discussed the 25th word. I think this is an option you can take advantage of. If you trust a bank safe deposit box with your recovery phrase then a lawyer or some other custodian with your passphrase, neither party will have access to your assets. The key is keeping the two from knowing about one another. This would also fulfill both criteria.
If I had the budget and a large bag to protect I’d probably take this approach.
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