Ich habe Bedenken, ob Krypto wirklich sicher ist.

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    • #1249264
      root_s2yse8vt
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      Okay, das bezieht sich auf alle Wallets. Ich besitze einen Ledger und dachte mir, dass jemand in diesem speziellen Bereich mir helfen kann, zu verstehen, ob meine Idee wirklich etwas ist, worüber man sich Sorgen machen muss, oder ob sie keine Grundlage hat.

      Besorgnis: Da es nur 2.048 spezifische Wörter gibt, aus denen sich eine Seed-Phrase zusammensetzt, ist es für jemanden nicht möglich, ein Wallet-Programm zu erstellen, bei dem die Wörter automatisch durch die Schnittstelle laufen, um alle erzeugten Wallets und die darin enthaltenen Kryptowährungen zu entdecken?

    • #1249265
      0x11C3P
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      You need something like trillions of years to brute force a 24 word list that adheres to BIP39. Not including 25th passphrase.

    • #1249266
      DrAgaricus
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      „A 12-word seed phrase has a possible combination of 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 while a 24 word seed phrase has even more combinations.“

      https://trustwallet.com/blog/could-someone-guess-your-mnemonic

      The answer was just a Google search away

    • #1249268
      zackattack784
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      Google is your friend. Humans are really REALLY bad at comprehending big numbers.

    • #1249269
      libert-y
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      OP do you even math?

    • #1249270
      weedium
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      The number of combinations makes that not an issue at all.

      Edit: for a 24 word seed phrase it is 2048^24 number of combinations. A ridiculously large number. More than stars in the known universe.

    • #1249271
      cryptowalter4572
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      And after a trillion years you crack a wallet, and it has a total equivalent of $10usd in it. 😌

    • #1249272
      Tabea_Ledger
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      The exact number of possible seeds is 115 792 089 237 316 195 423 570 985 008 687 907 853 269 984 665 640 564 039 457 584 007 913 129 639 936.

      [In this article](https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4415198323089-How-Ledger-device-generates-24-word-recovery-phrase?docs=true) we explain how a Ledger device generates the seed phrase

    • #1249273
      azsxdcfvg
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      There’s more possibilities than atoms in the universe.

    • #1249274
      skajflka
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      Im a programmer. I did create a bruteforce script that will try to bruteforce evm based blockchain. So far it works with ethereum, bsc, avax, ftm. That script has 1 master that produce seed and that created seeds can be spread to multiple of workers. Which means, I can spin up a lot of virtual machine/server/computer to join checking the created seeds if there are any balance inside it.

      That master can produce 100 seeds in 1 seconds. And each worker can check 15 seeds in 1 seconds. It can ho higher, but every blockchain endpoint will rate limit me from checking another seeds, so 15 seeds/s is a safe number.

      Let me tell you, it is useless. You can’t crack it. Unless probably you have thousands of worker. And that is just a probably. Not a solid answer.

    • #1249275
      slowerthanjoebiden
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      😂

    • #1249276
      Maleficent-Camel2849
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      your concern is for nothing. Even quantum computers would have a hard time. And I think if a computer can crack a blockchain it would before crack the whole financal market and so on…

    • #1249277
      patwy09
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      Slot count 24. Possibilities per slot 2048. 2048^24. It think you are fine

    • #1249278
      Crypto-Guide
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      You are underestimating the number of possible seeds… (That’s ok, humans suck at big numbers)

      Software like you are asking about already exists in BTCRecover ([https://github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover/](https://github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover/)) but if you have a play around with it you will find that practical limits in terms of recovering missing words from a seed phrase are 2-3 missing words… (Depending on your system, you will be able to check about 100,000 to 500,000 seeds per second, but even at that speed, recovering a completely unknown seed is impractical)

    • #1249279
      My1xT
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      in a 12 word seed there’a 2^128 and in a 24 word seed 2^256 possible combinations that are valid (the last 4 respectively 8 bits are checksum) if someone could break 128 or 256 bit keys LITERALLY every method of encryption, signature etc. we currently commonly use would be broken.

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