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[root_s2yse8vt]

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Ich habe vor kurzem gekauft 1000 Dollar cad von eth durch moonpay auf ledger wallet. ich erhielt die ethereum von moonpay gut. dann fast sofort, wie ich es bekam 475 Dollar im Wert wurde aus meiner Wallet ohne jede Erlaubnis von mir gewährt gesendet. Ich habe den Ledger-Support per E-Mail kontaktiert, das einzige, was sie vorschlugen, war, dass es an Metamask gesendet worden sein könnte. Ich habe Metamask noch nie benutzt, und als ich mit einem Metamask-Vertreter sprach, sahen sie nicht, wie es möglich war, dass Gelder hierher geschickt werden konnten, ohne dass ich ein Wallet bei ihnen hatte. Ledger beendete seine Bemühungen, mir zu helfen, nach diesem Punkt und hörte auf, mich zu kontaktieren. Es ist nun schon über eine Woche her und es gibt keine Ergebnisse. Ich bin dabei zu versuchen, den Kontakt mit Ledger wieder herzustellen, aber zu diesem Zeitpunkt waren sie keine große Hilfe in dieser Angelegenheit. Ich habe von einem kürzlichen Fehler bei Ledger gehört, bei dem Ethereum im Wert von etwa 100k Dollar an zufällige Adressen gesendet wurde, bevor sie das Problem gelöst haben. Dieses Problem schien dem meinen ähnlich zu sein, obwohl diese Leute ihre Hardware benutzten, um das Ethereum zu senden, das automatisch an eine zufällige Adresse umgeleitet wurde, während bei meinem Problem keine Hardware beteiligt war und die Transaktion automatisch durchgeführt wurde. Ist so etwas noch jemandem passiert?

[Gullible-Strength-59]

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No offense man, but I’ve used Ledger since 2020, and I’ve never had one single issue with lost funds. There was a bug where my btc balance displayed more than I actually had, but never funds just disappearing. And it disappearing almost instantly really seems like there some sort of compromise on your end. Ledger doesnt have access to your funds, seed phrase, or anything of the like. I think there’s some sort of vulnerability on your end somewhere man, hate to tell you.

[btchip]

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If this happened almost instantly after you received an asset it might mean that there was a transaction you signed previously but couldn’t be executed because you had not enough assets that was still held by the network with a valid sequence number for this address. You can check if you remember signing a transaction sending assets to this address that failed at some point in the past.

[x-TASER-x]

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Can we get a karma / account age minimum for this subreddit? These are clearly fake posts and they’re happening too often.

[Y0rin]

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Did you type in your 24 words into ledger live when you set it up?

[Christhealien]

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Every day there is a post like this, very suspicious because they are always new accounts with no post or comment history.

[CorneliusFudgem]

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Ledger cannot control the routing of any funds they’re just a hardware wallet company lol. I’m not sure this 100k random address thing has any validity to it? It sounds like you may have exposed your recovery phrase at some point. This is how someone would have been able to remove funds without your Ledger device in their possession.

[Skylahhhh]

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Sweeping bot ?

[trancephorm]

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How did you initialize Ledger, from given seed or you generated it?

[Ok_Cryptographer7194]

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Why moonpay?

[Plastic_Feed7917]

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If you did not leak/share/saved digitally the seed phrase, never interacted with DApps and your ledger is certified authentic, then it has to be your seed phrase generated was not random i.e pre-determined. I can’t think of any other possibility.

From the Ledger FAQ, seed phrase is generated using the RNG from the closed-sourced secure element chip. Since it is closed-source code we cannot audit the logic behind the programming of the RNG.

[Christhealien]

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Mods please add a karma check to this reddit page.

[Krypto_GoldFingers]

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Trace the wallet where it was sent to. It could be a wallet that you know of or have in your possession. Let me know I might be able to trace it down.

[bassysmart01]

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Perhaps you have found a bug with ledger and someone has either –

1. Hacked your keys by guessing them
2. Hacked your keys by social engineering
3. Hacked the ledger wallet
4. Hacked your keys by you interacting with a malicious contract
5. Unknown to human kind (at the time) vector of attack

Occums razor….the simplest reason is usually the right reason…..

[justmetal4me]

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I know theoretically, this shouldn’t happen to a hardware wallet and the blame always goes to the user ’sharing their phrase‘. But I’m hearing more and more stories about this with Ledger – and two points make a line. I’m staying the hell away from Ledger until they seriously start investigating. Too many people are starting to say the same thing.
Sorry about what happened to you – and I wish you the best of luck. I appreciate you posting b/c it’s another case of coins mysteriously disappearing from a Ledger (supposedly the safest wallet available).

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[Gullible-Strength-59]

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Yeah if or when you figure out what happened, myself and I’m sure others here would like to know what happened. And if you ever get an email from Ledger about anything, always check the URL it’s sent from. I’ve had my Ledger for almost 3 years amd the only emails I’ve gotten from them was the confirmation email when I originally ordered it.

[GrungyBallHed]

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Makes me wonder if your hardware wallet was somehow compromised. I remember the advice of one Ledger user, to reset your hardware wallet twice upon initial setup, even if it came from a verified source and was still wrapped in plastic, just to be sure that the setup was not somehow compromised.

[Ecstatic_Ad_7074]

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Where did you buy the ledger from?

[XBBlade]

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Have you bought your ledger from the official website?

Somehow it sounds like you are compromised. But you can check your past transactions and then you can find to who it was sent. If you recognize the address it was an old open pending transaction, if you don’t, well shyt, it isn’t safu to keep other funds on there as well.

What is weird is that the full amount isn’t stolen

[Ok_Tourist4970]

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Did you order the ledger from the official website?

[Mother-Improvement16]

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What piss me off is that these folks don’t take time to research previous posts & responses – and they keep posting similar topics almost everyday/weekly.

If they spend time going through old post they’ll discover where they made errors that led to compromise of their funds or in this case a pre-authorised future spending of your funds via interaction with smart contracts and pre-authorising them with your Ledger private keys 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️.

[m42z3c]

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thanks to those who pointed out the issue , turns out this was simply previously signed transaction from an exchange i made to bitcoin and changelly has taken care of the missing funds.

and as negative as the response was to this issue , i probably wouldnt have solved the problem nearly as fast without posting here.

[m42z3c]

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So basically what i gather, is that your funds from ledger can be removed from your wallet without the hardware, and without being connected to another 3rd party wallet? if thats true why am i using it?

[RhubarbOnly9866]

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I had the exact same thing happen to me. I lost 12k literally 24 hrs after i sent it to my ledger it was sent to a random address. I definitely did not authorize this nor did i give anyone access to my seed phrase. I have no idea how this could happen

[m42z3c]

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also guys, im more interested in the ledger mods take on this subject, not really other users opinions on what they think occurred.

[Manu97426]

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I have the same matter …Some ETH were removed without my permission on another of my wallet. And it’s exactly the same amount that i buy ETH a few months ago with Moonpay. No one has access to my words.

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