Home Foren Ledger Wallet Ist es unmöglich, MetaMask-Vermögenswerte in eine Ledger-gesicherte MetaMask zu migrieren?

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    • #918372
      root_s2yse8vt
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      Hallo zusammen,

      Ich suche nach einer Möglichkeit, meine MetaMask-Assets/Tokens von

      Ich habe herausgefunden, wie ich meinen Ledger Nano S Plus mit MM verbinden kann. Um mein ursprüngliches MM-Software-Wallet-Konto stillzulegen (mit dem Ziel, MM weiterhin zu nutzen), muss ich alle meine Token/Fonds auf ein mit Ledger verbundenes MM-Konto übertragen. Dies kann erreicht werden, indem ich einfach “Connect Hardware Wallet” ausführe und Token vom alten zum neuen Ledger-verbundenen MM-Konto sende.

      Ich habe jedoch festgestellt, dass ich nicht alle Vermögenswerte auf mein mit MetMask verbundenes Ledger-Gerät übertragen kann, wenn es sich um Investitionen handelt, die in gesperrten Verträgen wie Nodes bestehen.

      Der im Internet häufig vorgeschlagene Weg ist also die Migration von MetaMask zum Ledger über die Funktion “Wiederherstellen aus dem Wiederherstellungssatz” auf dem Ledger-Gerät. Was mich verwirrt, ist, dass Ledger selbst nicht empfiehlt, “SEED YOUR 12-WORD METAMASK SECRET RECOVERY PHRASE INTO YOUR LEDGER DEVICE”, wie in

      [https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4787030390301-Should-you-seed-your-12-word-Metamask-secret-recovery-phrase-into-your-Ledger-device-?docs=true](https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4787030390301-Should-you-seed-your-12-word-Metamask-secret-recovery-phrase-into-your-Ledger-device-?docs=true)

      Dies führt mich zu der Annahme, dass es keine sichere Möglichkeit gibt, Vermögenswerte/Token zu 100 % von MM auf das Ledger-gesicherte MM zu übertragen.

      Was meinen Sie dazu? Übersehe ich etwas?

      Vielen Dank!

    • #918373
      VariousJackfruit
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      The issue is that you invested in assets that aren’t freely transferrable to new addresses. There’s nothing you can do to truly secure those since you’ve already exposed the key for them by using a software wallet.

      In the future I suggest not buying crypto that isn’t transferrable.

    • #918374
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      Metamask can connect and use an account created on the Ledger. Metamask can also have its own wallet, that is completely separate and has nothing to do with the Ledger. You can’t just “protect” the existing Metamask account with the Ledger; the entire point of the Ledger is that the account, tied to those initial seed phrases that are only ever known to the ledger, cannot be compromised.

      It’s certainly technically possible to take that Metamask seed phrase and enter it into the Ledger as its seed phrase, and then use the Ledger going forward. But it’s relatively pointless – as you still have almost 100% the risk of the software wallet, and have to deal with an additional hardware device to access it.

      Initialize a new wallet with the Ledger. Connect to it via the “connect hardware wallet” feature on Metamask, and you can view your Ledger accounts (and the Metamask accounts), from the same Metamask interface. You can also choose to move any of the crypto you choose, from your older Metamask-only accounts, to the new Ledger accounts. Do not ever enter your ledger seed phrase into Metamask.

      For assets that you simply can’t move from the existing Metamask wallet right now – just keep them there until you are able to migrate them. Adding that seed to Ledger does very little to protect them, but it does further compromise everything that you do then proceed to put into Ledger, compared to using a newly-generated Ledger seed phrase that is never used on any other device/location.

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      loupiote2
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      You’d have to unlock your cryptos and transfer them to the new ledger-secured accounts.

      If you cryptos are locks or not transferable, there is no way to protect them with a ledger.

      Entering your 12-word MM seed in a ledger is exactly the same as putting a condom after having sex. It will not offer protection.

    • #918376
      Mr-Wedge01
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      What ledger means is that is not safe to use a seed that was generated into a software wallet to a hardware wallet ( Because those seeds may were exposed to the internet). So they recommend to generate a new one directly from ledger. If you think that it’s not gonna be possible to send all tokens from seed generated on sw wallet to hd, I think you will be good to import ur mm to ledger. Another thing u can do, is generate a new seed on ledger, and send all possible tokens to it. So, soon as it is possible, send the remaining ones

    • #918377
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      You can do this by transferring the assets from the original addresses derived from the MM seed (which will never be secure because the seed was stored encrypted on a computer — hence why you want to abandon them) to the addresses derived from the hardware wallet seed. If you understand the previous sentence properly you understand this means transferring the assets via blockchain transactions to the new addresses, paying associated fees to miners to execute the relevant transactions. There is no way to ‘directly’ connect the original and new addresses through some hardware interface that bypasses the blockchain because no assets reside either on the little fox software in your browser or in the little plastic device you hold in your hand. ‘Importing’ the original seed into the hardware wallet does not in any way whatsoever change the security profile of the seed, except with regards to futurity, nor could it according to our understanding of the operation of the ‘material universe’. The fox is not guarding your coins behind his face nor are they sitting in the plastic usb stick, rather they guard proof of control of the addresses with designated balances residing on a synchronised distributed network of thousands of devices.

    • #918378
      reddevilandbones
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      Importing MM seed phrase defeats half the purpose of ledger. I’d recommend not to do that.

      Transfer whatever you can.

      Take profits from the nodes and bulk transfer whenever possible. There are a few nodes and locked defi projects that allow transfering to wallet as a whole. Try checking he their discord for details.

      Even if you’re able to fully wipe the old MM, keep the wallets, you may be eligible to future airdrop for using particular chain or particular protocols.

    • #918379
      SD5150
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      You have it right, move the assets that you can move to the secure Ledger wallet and keep the Node locked ones in MetaMask for now. I don’t think you have many options for node locked items, as you don’t want to import your MM seed into ledger.

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