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    • #1061729
      root_s2yse8vt
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      Ich bereite eine Krypto-Wallet für meinen Sohn vor und habe einige Fragen, auf die ich online keine Antworten finden kann. Also frage ich euch Redditoren-Kollegen. Ich habe meine eigene Ledger-Setup für diese, und ich werde schließlich geben ihm eine seiner eigenen, aber ich möchte den Überblick über die Münzen auf meinem Ende zu halten. Also werde ich 2 Ledger mit demselben Seed mit demselben Konto verbinden, um sicherzustellen, dass er nicht alles für NFTs oder ähnliches ausgibt. Wird er sehen, mein Ledger verbunden? Wird auf dem Konto angezeigt, dass 2 Ledger verbunden sind? Er ist noch nicht volljährig, aber er kennt sich besser mit Computern aus als ich, also weiß es vielleicht einer von euch?

    • #1061730
      klimauk
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      “So, I’ll connect 2 ledgers with same seed” – this is stupid idea. Don’t do that. You can setup 2nd Ledger with different seed and track his coins via coin explorers.

    • #1061731
      VariousJackfruit
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      If you set up his Ledger with the same seed as yours, he could freely spend all your coins with his device.

    • #1061732
      athsrueas
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      If they have the same seed they are the same wallet regardless of having different devices. The seed leads directly to unique private keys, you would both have the same private keys so only one wallet. He could spend YOUR money on nfts never mind his own.

      Edit: more correct to say you can create many wallets for many currencies with this one seed and both of you would have private keys to all of them. You need 2 different seeds and ideally when he is older he will generate his own seed you don’t know and move all his assets to this address.

    • #1061733
      calipy1
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      You never “see” when a ledger is connected. Per say

      You look at the balance of a wallet address on ledger live.

      If you both have the same seed. Then you both have the same wallet.

      So to start you would need two separate ledgers and two separate seed phrases. One for yours one for his.

      If you want to spy on his balance, then you would need a second phone laptop or something to hook up to ledger live. That is different then the device you use to look at your personal wallet.

      Say you had a burner phone, you could download ledger live. Connected to Wi-Fi. Then scan the QR code from his ledger live on his device to duplicate desktop set up. And it would show you his balances. You could not send coins out of his wallet just view them. He would never know.

    • #1061734
      GabrielT007
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      Same seed: Your son will drain your wallet.

    • #1061735
      Nnooo_Nic
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      Think of this keys and vaults full of gold. All vaults are made of unbreakable glass (ie anyone can see inside them but only the key holder can access it)

      Scenario 1
      You and your son use the same seeds.

      This means you share one vault of gold and have copies of the same vault key. Either of you can access and take gold or add gold to the vault. Anyone can see the contents of your vault but can’t access it (it’s made of impenetrable glass).

      Scenario 2
      You each have your own seeds.

      This means you each have your own vault and only one key exists for each vault. Only you can access yours and only he can access his. Anyone, including each other, can see the contents of your vaults.

      In either scenario
      1) DONT LOSE THE SEED as it’s the key. You lose it you can NEVER access the vault/wallet again.
      2) If you lose a ledger as long as you have the seed (ie vault key) you can access the vault/wallet by setting up a new ledger
      3) Every vault/wallet’s contents are visible to everyone else by the public addresses. You can see all transactions done on by it and it’s current contents. Only the key holder can action anything out of it.
      4) Anyone can transfer into any vault/wallet by sending to the public address(key) and no authentication is required.

      If you want to track what your son does I would suggest
      1) Getting the public addresses of his wallets you can track them that way
      2) Spend time with him setting it all up and explaining the security and making sure his seed phrases are stored effectively.

      Technical terms

      Seed – generates the private, not to be shared with anyone, key for a wallet

      Key – the things that control the wallet there are two types public and private.

      Public key – this is the address of the wallet that you can share with anyone. It’s like an email address people can send money to it or request payment from you via it.

      Private key – this is the security of your wallet. DO NOT SHARE it with anyone it. If you have this you have complete control of your wallet.

      Wallet – where the “money” is stored

    • #1061736
      loupiote2
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      if you give a ledger to your son, it has to have a seed different from your seed, o0therwise your son would have access to your cryptos, and he could take them, or even if he gets scammed, it would put all your cryptos at risk.

      But if you want to have some control of what he does with his crypto, then you could get another ledger, set it up with the same seed as your son’s ledger, this way you would have access and control oh his accounts, without putting your cryptos at risk (and without having to ask him for his ledger). That’s another solution

      your son: ledger 1 with seed A (your ledger account)

      you: ledger 2 with seed B (your accounts), and ledger 3 with seed A (i.e. a clone of your son’s ledger, giving you full access to your son’s accounts)

    • #1061737
      Electronic_Lies_420
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      😂 were these the answers you were looking for?

    • #1061738
      steffi8
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      If they have different seeds can you set up watch wallets from the other?

    • #1061739
      Medzclout
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      Actually, you can add a second account to Ledger Live so OP can track his sons Ledger.

    • #1061740
      Biddycola
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      If you know his username and password for his own ledger live account, I believe you could always log in and see, but cannot perform any transactions without the physical device.

      Don’t share your own personal seed.

    • #1061741
      faceof333
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      Advice: Never give seeds to anyone, never insert seeds in any application, just on ledger device, ignore spam messages always.

    • #1061742
      thatgirlhou
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      Just get him a ledger.. not worth losing money over 170 bucks

    • #1061743
      Cute-Experience-5799
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      You can set up multi-sig, at least with Bitcoin. You can then need both ledgers to send the Bitcoin out. But with other crypto I am not multi sig sounds like what you are looking for

    • #1061744
      adamstumpf7
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      Download ledger live app on your phone and get his info on the app so his stuff shows up

    • #1061745
      Caponcapoffstillon
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      Not sure why you need to helicopter parent your son if you bought him a crypto wallet to freely buy assets with. Seems like backwards parenting. If you have the same seed phrase you’ll have the same private keys which is something you do not want if you’re concerned about what he’s spending.

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