Ledger vs. BitBox vs. Trezor

[root_s2yse8vt]

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Liebe technische Köpfe,

ich bin nur ein Benutzer mit einem gewissen technischen Grundverständnis von Krypto und all diesen Dingen. Aber ich arbeite nicht in einem IT-Bereich. Meinem Verständnis nach sollte die BitBox02 von Shiftcrypto die beste Wallet da draußen sein, einfach weil solide Hardware für alles und alles Open Source ist (sicherer Chip mit Open Source Firmware). Nichtsdestotrotz macht mich diese Seed-Backup auf sd-Karte Sache ein wenig unsicher, vielleicht könnte jemand erklären.

Mich würde Ihre professionelle Meinung interessieren, ob die BitBox02 von Shiftcrypto (auch als reine Bitcoin-Version erhältlich) die beste Alternative sein könnte. Ein Nachteil ist eindeutig die fehlende Unterstützung vieler Münzen. Da die BitBox außerhalb von Deutschland/Suisse kaum bekannt zu sein scheint, schreibe ich diesen Beitrag, damit Sie sie kennenlernen und sich mit ihr auseinandersetzen können.

Sicherheit erklärt mit Links zu mehr:
https://shiftcrypto.ch/bitbox02/security-features/

Blogpost über sichere Chips:
https://shiftcrypto.ch/blog/best-of-both-worlds-using-a-secure-chip-with-open-source-firmware/

Wallet-Vergleich von Shiftcrypto:
https://shiftcrypto.ch/bitbox02/compare-hardware-wallets/

[Interested_Redditor]

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Don’t forget the Lattice 1. I’m interested to see how the industry feels about it

[Jaromou]

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I’ve checked the Bitbox out and I’m in the same camp as you. Pity, they do not support many blockchains out there. I’ll go with them nevertheless:

1. As you said, open source! I’m not in the IT field, but other users are and could check themselves if there’s sth odd or not.
2. The team behind Bitbox is trustworthy. Jonas Schnelli, the co-founder is even a Bitcoin Core developer!! The other one Douglas Bakkum has got a masters degree in mechanical engineering and bio-engineering from Georgia Institute of Technology
3. The team is open about vulnerabilities in the community and help out even others (like showing other companies about their flaws).
4. Talked to the support: Friendly and helpful. And: Received answers in some hours (not in weeks as in Ledger’s case).
5. Reviews on Trust Pilot are very, very good. Lots of satisfied customers. Check the Ledger’s one and you will cry.
6. You can use directly in the app Tor.
7. They have this feature called anti-clepto protection.

I’m going to transfer my holdings either to Bitbox or hot wallets. I know it’s not a perfect solution but the trust is gone and I’m actually happy it happened now as I just started my crypto journey!

Re. the sd card: Yes, at first I thought that is a no-go. But they say it’s just for backup. You will store it at a different place, never touch it again. Same procedure as with your paper back-up. So that’s what I think works.

Maybe they will get more and more feedback from users to include more blockchains in the future. But for now, I’ll be able to sleep well again.

[gen66]

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Two points to keep in mind –
1. BitBox02 can also modify firmware to extract seeds anytime they want!

2. Open Source doesn’t guarantee you get exactly what was reviewed on GitHub unless you are willing to compile the code given to GitHub by yourself! Otherwise best strategy is to wait 6 months before updating, which also for Ledger.

3.Just because of poor PR and typical French arrogance, especially in their communication I don’t plan to change my Ledger, it is still a very secure product.

[millingcalmboar]

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As I recall if you are entering a seed into the bitbox02 it doesn’t force you to save it to a micro SD. Only if you generate a new seed on the device do they require that. They might have changed it though, who knows. I would use casino grade dice to generate 23 of 24 of your words. If you need a Bitcoin only single sig hardware wallet I don’t see any compelling reason to go with Bitbox02 over ColdCard MK4.

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