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    • #2807071
      root_s2yse8vt
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      vor langer Zeit habe ich Atom App auf meinem Ledger Nano X installiert. Habe die 12 Wiederherstellungswörter gesichert. alles OK.
      Heute installiere ich auf demselben Ledger die Ethereum App, und auch die Bitcon App

      Aber sie geben mir keine neuen Wiederherstellungswörter.
      Ein bisschen überrascht, so bedeutet es, diese 12 Worte sind Erholung für Atom, ETH und BTC zur gleichen Zeit?

    • #2807072
      crypt0kiddie
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      You might want to slow down before you loose money.

      Make sure you still have your 24 words.

      Also, you really should be using a 25th word passphrase which really isn’t just a word, but see here:

      [https://www.ledger.com/academy/passphrase-an-advanced-security-feature](https://www.ledger.com/academy/passphrase-an-advanced-security-feature)

      That said, as other will and have pointed out, you can use the same seed for all your crypto if you want. It’s not going to give you a new seed unless you created a new wallet with a new 24 OR add a 25th passphrase.

      I’d do a base 24 with all your funds secure under a 25th word passphrase btw, much safer.

      You can even use the same base of 24 for all your wallets but then have a sperate 25th passphrase for each asset if you want. Then they are not all in the same wallet.

      If any of that makes sense.

    • #2807073
      ConnyHedge
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      Where did you get those 12 words from? (and how sure are you?)

      Because Ledger gives you 24 words which secure all your assets protected by the Ledger

    • #2807074
      Quiet_International
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      When you first initialize the device you get 24 words. Not 12. If you only have 12 you should probably move your assets somewhere safe for a moment. Like an exchange maybe? Then reset the device and get 24 words. Because if you only have 12 then you are missing half your recovery phrase and if your device is lost or breaks you will lose everything.

      Once you have 24 words then those 24 words secure every asset on the device. You don’t need 24 words per asset. It’s just one SEED from which all other asset’s secret keys are derived.

      But seriously. Go check. If you only have 12 you are in trouble. Move your assets to an exchange. Then when you are sure it’s all of them – and I mean 100% sure! Wipe the device by entering pin wrong 3 times. Then recreate a new seed phrase. But seriously. Be 100% sure you moved everything before you wipe it. Because if you left something behind there will be no way to recover it since you only have 12 words instead of the required 24.

    • #2807075
      cogentat
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      You should probably not be keeping your funds on a hardware wallet until you figure some things out.

    • #2807076
      Jim-Helpert
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      Hey, as you may know by now, when setting up a Ledger device, your device will generate 24 words recovery phrase that would be the key to your funds and recovery later on.

      Did you restore a hotwallet with it’s 12 words on your Ledger? Doing so, doesn’t protect your funds as the 12 words would have already been generated online: [https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4787030390301-Should-you-restore-your-Ledger-device-with-your-12-word-secret-recovery-phrase-from-Metamask-?docs=true](https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4787030390301-Should-you-restore-your-Ledger-device-with-your-12-word-secret-recovery-phrase-from-Metamask-?docs=true)

      If you need further assistance or clarification, do not hesitate to open an email ticket or Livechat at [support.ledger.com](https://support.ledger.com)
      Please beware of people that might DM you, Ledger will never DM or ask for your 24 words!

    • #2807077
      itsnotlupus
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      If by 12 words, you mean 24 words, then yes, those are equivalent to your main secret key from which all other keys for any app you install are derived.
      Whoever has access to those words will have access to every coin across every chain associated with them.

    • #2807078
      Wayne2018ZA
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      Did you take 12 words from Keplr wallet and initialize your Ledger? If so, your Ledger is not safe because the 12 words have been online, so it’s not helping you using your Ledger. But yes, those 12 words will give you a Btc address etc.

    • #2807079
      loupiote2
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      Ledger generates only 24-word recovery / seed phrase.

      If you have a 12-word seed phrase it was generated by something else, so it is potentially less safe than a ledger-generated 24-word seed phrase.

      And yes, the recovery / seed phrase is your master private keys, used to derive addresses / accounts for all crypto types (BTC, ETH, etc…)

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