Vorschläge für Hardware-Wallet. Trezor vs Ledger

[root_s2yse8vt]

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Ich habe einige Bitcoin und Ether auf coinbase und möchte es aus und sicher auf eine Hardware-Wallet, da meine Gov geht verrückt über Krypto jetzt. Ich habe kurz in diese vor, aber wurde überwältigt und nur die Coinbase Wallet verwendet. Im Moment bin ich an der Trezor Modell ein für $ 69 und die Ledger nano S für $ 79 suchen. Sind diese gute Optionen in 23? Ich werde darauf hinweisen, ich benutze das Linux-Betriebssystem..suse und debian. Was ich suche, ist etwas, das nicht zu schwierig zu bedienen ist. Ich hatte vor, alle meine Münzen auf die Hardware-Wallet zu packen und sie in den Safe zu legen. Dann…nach Bedarf übertragen einige der Münze aus meiner Hardware-Wallet zu einer Software-Wallet auf meinem Android-Handy, so dass ich nicht um eine Hardware-Wallet tragen. Empfehlungen für Hardware- und Software-Geldbörsen wären sehr willkommen, wenn ich dies tatsächlich tun kann. Was ich nicht verstehe, ist, wie Sie die Münze aus dem Austausch auf die Hardware-Wallet zu bekommen. Wenn Sie die Hardware-Wallet bekommen, hat sie eine Adresse zugewiesen und wenn ja, wo befindet sich diese Adresse? Ich schätze, was ich frage, ist, ob mein Coin jetzt im Trezor-Netzwerk und nicht mehr bei Coinbase ist? Ich nehme an, dass die Wallet nur den Hash enthält, um die Münze zurückzubekommen, da die Münze nicht genau auf der Wallet ist. Und was ist, wenn das Trezor-Netzwerk jemals zusammenbricht? Was genau enthält die Hardware-Wallet und wie kann sie ausfallen und man kann sie trotzdem wiederherstellen, solange man die 24-Wörter-Passphrase hat? Die letzte Frage betrifft die Übertragung von Münzen aus einer Hardware-Wallet in eine Software-Wallet auf meinem Telefon… kostet mich das $?

Vielen Dank für jede Hilfe für diesen Neuling… Ich möchte nur meine Münze aus dem Austausch zu bekommen.

[chuoni]

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I’d suggest to read up on how hardware wallets work. Your funds are never stored on your wallet, only the keys are. There’s no Trezor or Ledger network, all funds are on the blockchains (even Coinbase’s funds, although they handle that for you).

So, there’s no need to put your device in the safe, it’s the mnemonic phrase/seed phrase that you need to store on a secure location: all keys and addresses are derived directly from that phrase, and if someone has your phrase they have access to all your funds. The role of the hardware wallet is to make sure the keys never leave the device – but you need to make sure the phrase is stored safely.

If you send your funds from Coinbase to the addresses protected by the hardware wallet, it’s a transaction on the blockchain. You pay a fee for this transaction. If you send your funds from the hardware wallet’s addresses to the addresses of a software wallet, that’s another transaction, with another fee.

Here’s a good introduction on hardware wallets: [https://trezor.io/learn/a/what-is-a-hardware-wallet](https://trezor.io/learn/a/what-is-a-hardware-wallet)

That said, there are pros and cons for each hardware wallet. Ledger has received a great deal of criticism recently because allegedly, the keys *can* leave the device. The Nano S is discontinued by the way.

[Purple_is_masculine]

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Ledger isn’t open source and in general not recommended anymore since it’s confirmed that the firmware can extract the seed. Trezor is a good option, it’s fully open source.

A hardware wallet is basically a device that let’s you do transactions without risking to expose the seed (again, Ledger is the exception). If you would be fine to not touch your crypto for the next 20 years, you wouldn’t need a hardware wallet. You could just create a paper wallet and in 20 years you take your funds off it and never use the paper wallet again, since the seed was exposed to a device with internet access, therefore not having the guaranteed security anymore. With a proper hardware wallet the guaranteed security will remain after doing transactions.

You can in principle do all that without a hardware wallet, using a permanently airgapped laptop or smartphone and a program to remote sign. You send to the airgapped device the transaction to sign, the airgapped device signs it using the seed, the airgapped device gives you the signed transaction and you broadcast it to the network on your internet pc. A hardware wallet is doing exactly the same, but as a convenient single purpose computer.

As you can see, there is nothing special like a trezor network at work here. Just normal transactions with added security steps. I hope that helped!

[TERE_MOTOS]

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I will encourage , Become well verse with ledgers recent drama of the “opt-in ledger recovery “ coming down the pipe before choosing . Ledger and Trezor are good cold wallets, both have advantages and disadvantages. Choose wisely. That is the way.

[unshak3n]

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You are in a Trezor sub, so people here tend to prefer this over Ledger.

I’m noob myself, just want a hardware to store some crypto for the apocalipse. I don’t trade or use it too much. I find trezor pretty easy and user friendly.

There’s a bunch of youtube videos comparing them.

[Purple-Cap4457]

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Trezor one should be ok, can support more coins then ledger nano.
In (real) blockchain cryptocurrency your funds are stored in the blockchain – every computer that participates in the network with mining operations. You only acces it with your private keys. Coinbase, trezor ledger, software program only do storing keys for access.
Regarding of how much it would cost to transfer money from one account to another, it depends on the coin.
Back in old days of bitcoin it costed nothing.
Now if you use bitcoin (btc) or ether, it will cost from 1-2 usd to even 50$ or more per transaction! And it can happen to have blockchain congested and wait for days to arrive.
On the other hands other coins like bitcoin cash still cost fraction of the cent to transact.
If you use monero then try Trezor T

[silverGameOfThrone]

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Ledger if u want to share u private keys 🔑

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