Was passiert, wenn Trezor in Konkurs geht?
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Frage eines Laien…
Ich will Trezor hier nicht schlecht reden. Das Unternehmen hat großartige Produkte hergestellt.
aber hier ist ein Szenario von >0 Wahrscheinlichkeit…
Nehmen wir an, ich verliere im Jahr 2045 meinen Trezor, habe aber noch die Seed-Phrasen.
Wenn es den Trezor noch gibt, könnte ich einfach einen neuen Trezor kaufen, um meine Wallet wiederzubekommen.
Aber was ist, wenn es den trezor in 20 Jahren nicht mehr gibt und man nirgendwo trezor-Geräte kaufen kann?
Ändert sich die Antwort, wenn Ihre Wallet durch Multi-Sig-Seed-Phrasen geschützt ist?
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Your same seed phrase can be used with pretty much any other wallet (software or hardware) to regenerate the same keypair (public and private), so no worries. This is all part of the Hierarchical Deterministic Wallet standard that everybody uses. Multi-sig is included in the standard, so you’ll be ok on that too.
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A Trezor device or any hardware device doesn’t matter as much as your private key does.
In the case of Trezor, the private key is stored securely within the hardware device itself and can be accessed using your seed phrase.
As long as you keep the seed phrase safe and intact, you could use it to recover your private keys and access your funds on a compatible wallet or another hardware wallet, even if Trezor stops producing devices or supporting its services.
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[https://trezor.io/learn/a/common-security-threats](https://trezor.io/learn/a/common-security-threats) -> Trezor shutting down
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Your seed *is* your crypto bro – the Trezor is a just a way of spending your crypto that balances security with convivence. Hot wallets or crypto at exchange accounts are more convenient (you can spend them faster) but much less secure (exchange going bust, wallets or computers being hacked). Airgapped cold wallets and seeds stamped on metal are much more secure but much, much less convenient.
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You should read the explanation I gave to LordCain in his comment earlier. It helps to think about “hardware wallets” not as wallets but as containers. The actual wallet is the public/private key pair. The network keeps a record of how much ETH (or other) each public keys holds, and same with each smart contract, the balance of each address is stored in the contract.
And as mentioned in my earlier comment, the key pairs are derived from the seed phrases itself and the hashing algorithm used to derived it.
The “container” for the key pair doesn’t matter when constructing a wallet. If you have the seed phrases you can place it in any other “container”, and as long as they implement the BIP32 standard for hierarchical deterministic wallets, you should arrive at the same key pair (or “wallet”).
Hardware wallets are useful containers though because you are able to sign transactions completely disconnected from the internet, and you don’t have to worry about your seed phrases of private keys being exposed to a potential hacker on your computer/phone.
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it would not be a big deal although trezor already proven you cannot rely on them. Look what they did with the password manager. They had problems with google and they just discontinued their product and not given a fuck. Password manager is a pretty sensible product to abandon your users like this. Thankfully I am a programmer with xp in crypto for almost 10 years and I know how to write my software to do the same. Hence O could wrote my own script and decode my password file locally.
They should have provided those tools to users. But they do not give a fuck about you. My dad had the same problem and if it was not for me decoding his encrypted password he just did not had the skill to solve the issue.
Hence, be aware of these guys
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Even if in theory the seed could be reused in other wallet with BIP39 this is not always true for all coins and you could end up with a different account
Beware : For Monero XMR the derivation path IS NOT the same in between ledger and Trezor for the same seed ! Because XMR didn’t use BIP39 natively. And Trezor and Ledger team didn’t use the same derivation path …
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