Wie viele Versuche für die Passphrase

[root_s2yse8vt]

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Sie wissen, dass es 16 Versuche für die PIN gibt, bevor die Seed-Phrase vollständig gelöscht wird?

**Was ist mit der Passphrase? Wenn es unbegrenzte Versuche gibt, warum?**

**Wenn die Passphrase nicht korrekt ist, wird eine neue Wallet erstellt. Und warum? Was ist, wenn ich keine weitere versteckte Wallet möchte?** Meine Sorge ist, dass, wenn ich die Passphrase vergesse und ein paar Mal, sagen wir 3 oder 5 Mal, eine falsche eingebe, dies 3 oder 5 versteckte Brieftaschen bedeuten würde.

Ja, ich weiß. Ich werde meine Passphrase aufschreiben und sie in einem feuerfesten Safe aufbewahren. Aber was ist, wenn ich keine Lust habe, den Safe zu öffnen und ein paar Mal raten möchte, bevor ich meinen Hintern zum Safe bewege?

[raymonddurk]

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The answer to your question is unlimited. The thing you need to know is that each passphrase shifts the elliptic curve to generate new addresses based on your private key. To put it simply, anything you enter is valid and creates a new wallet.

If you enter the passphrase of password, you get wallet A.
If you enter a typo and it’s pssword, you get wallet B.
If you do a different typo and do pasword you get wallet C.

This sub is filled with the response of “lol start guessing” because people confuse the PIN (device security) and the passphrase (wallet obscurity).

Type. Slowly.

[jamespharaoh]

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The passphrase determines the wallet. Creating a wallet is basically just choosing a random number. Same passphrase = same wallet, different passphrase = different wallet.

Entering it wrong a number of times just means you are accessing different wallets. There’s no central entity determining how many times you tried to get it right, it all happens on the device, and could be repeated on any number of devices forever.

[freakbag]

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you would know immediately if you entered an incorrect passphrase because it would show a zero balance

[dmdhodler]

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There is no such thing as a wrong passphrase. Only empty hidden wallets.

[grimsbymatt]

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Every possible ‘wallet’ is just a number that already exists, but hasn’t been picked yet. Your seed phrase is essentially a number that represents one of these wallets.

A passphrase can be thought of as a multiplier that changes this number to another number/wallet. If you don’t choose a passphrase (standard wallet in Trezor), the multiplier is just 1. Otherwise, this is applied to the seed phrase number to select another wallet.

The number of possible wallets is so huge that the seed phrase/passphrase combination will never clash with someone else’s wallet (until quantum computers get powerful enough, which is a long way off).

[Darth_Liberty]

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Those “hidden wallets” are not stored on your Trezor. Each time you enter a passphrase, you wipe out whatever was in there before. Your Trezor only deals with one set of wallet addresses at a time: those generated by the most recent passphrase you entered into it.

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