Home Foren Ledger Wallet Würde eine Passphrase vor Wiederherstellungsproblemen schützen?

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      root_s2yse8vt
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      Nach den Befürchtungen, dass private Schlüssel von Ledger oder Hackern usw. eingesehen werden könnten, würde eine Passphrase diese Risiken mindern?

      Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, zu einer anderen Wallet mit einem neuen Seed zu wechseln, bin aber sehr neugierig auf diese Frage.

      Nehmen wir an, dass meine Schlüssel irgendwie durch einen Hack etc. kompromittiert wurden. Selbst wenn sie die vollständigen privaten Schlüssel bekämen, würde meine Passphrase nicht jeden Diebstahl verhindern?

      Oder würden sie auch auf die Passphrase zugreifen können?

    • #3408964
      Puzzleheaded-Room657
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      Who knows. Allegedly passphrases aren’t stored at the device. But ledger already lied about the seeds, saying they never leave the device. We know now that this isn’t true after ledger launched the remote recovery option.
      I’d ditch ledger and use another HW from another manufacturer

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      ExpensivePikachu
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      Can sometime tell me like I’m 5 the difference between the 24 word recovery and a pass phrase?

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      HarrisonGreen
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      Ledger mentioned that Ledger Recover does not keep the private keys of your passphrases, only your seed phrase.

      So if Ledger Recover was ever hacked, or subpoenaed, or rug-pulled, only the crypto in your seed phrase is at risk. The crypto in your passphrase should be secure (as long as it is long and complex enough to not be easily bruteforced).

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      EccentricDyslexic
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      You need to be clear what you mean by keys. Your seed is the 24 word list or the 24 words plus a pass phrase. You can refer to this as your private key, seed or as ledger calls it, your Secret Pass Phrase.
      This should never ever be entered into a keyboard, taken an image of digitally, nor entered into a screen based device such and an iPad or mobile phone.
      It should only ever be entered into your ledger DEVICE.

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      DustyVista
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      Nobody knows. If you are that worried just don’t use Ledger.

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      gotamm
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      Theoretically

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      Jim-Helpert
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      Hey, indeed, a passphrase adds an extra layer of security to your crypto accounts. It is essentially an optional password added to your recovery phrase that provides access to a whole new set of secret accounts. If your 24-word recovery phrase were to be compromised, the passphrase protects your crypto assets as an attacker would need both your recovery phrase and your passphrase to access passphrase-protected accounts.

      However, it’s important to note that your passphrase is never saved on your device. It’s only used to derive a secondary seed that safeguards a distinct set of ‘secret accounts’. If you decide to attach your passphrase to a PIN, the secondary seed and secret accounts’ private keys will be secured within your device’s secure element. But after the passphrase is used to generate the second seed, it’s discarded and never stored.

      If you’re using Ledger Recover, an optional subscription-only service for backing up your seed, it never has access to your passphrase and secret accounts — whether you’re using a temporary passphrase or one attached to a PIN.

      So, in the event of a hack, if you have a passphrase set up, it would add an additional layer of security. However, it’s crucial to keep both your recovery phrase and passphrase safe and secure. For more details on how to set up a passphrase, you can refer to this article: [https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-How-to-set-up-a-passphrase](https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-How-to-set-up-a-passphrase)

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